mel jacobson on fri 23 mar 07
remember, when hamada and cardew were
strolling across america there were very
few places/centers/universities with `clay programs`.
now we have thousands.
very few high schools had kilns, now thousands do.
in fact, many elementary schools have small electric kilns.
kids understand clay and firing.
think of how many companies made wheels? now look at the
variety. hundreds.
and, `making better slides than pots is still very active`.
mel
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Marcia Selsor on fri 23 mar 07
Mel,
I don't remember Hamada and Cardew together in USA but Leach, Yanagi
and Hamada
in 1951 or so in the USA.
They visited Montana's Archie Bray Foundation and also went to visit
Maria Martinez
in New Mexico.
I would also say that the increased interest in Ceramics stemmed more
from the GI Bill after WWII
and the tremendous growth in MFA programs at state universities
beginning Iowa which was one
of the first and the biggest.
I didn't understand your post. Who is making better slides of Cardew?
I always thought Cardew was inspirational.
This post from Steven is strange also. Is this what you were
responding to?
I think Seagrove Potters might disagree with their comments.
"Hi Folks,
I am posting this on behalf of Australian studio potter Milton Moon.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks, and greetings to all,
Steven Goldate
sgoldate@aasb.com.au
-----------------------------
Years ago I recall both Hamada and Bernard Leach visited America and
Leach was somewhat dismayed at what the Americans were doing. Leach
passed the comment "Where has pottery failed these people?" Hamada, on
the other hand merely said "The area has not yet firmed for them." or
words to that effect. Can anybody verify these quotes or even better,
does anyone know a (written) source for them?
Thanks,
Milton Moon"
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
Hank Murrow on fri 23 mar 07
On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:33 AM, Marcia Selsor wrote:
> Mel,
> I don't remember Hamada and Cardew together in USA but Leach, Yanagi
> and Hamada
> in 1951 or so in the USA.
> They visited Montana's Archie Bray Foundation and also went to visit
> Maria Martinez
> in New Mexico.
> I would also say that the increased interest in Ceramics stemmed more
> from the GI Bill after WWII
> and the tremendous growth in MFA programs at state universities
> beginning Iowa which was one
> of the first and the biggest.
> I didn't understand your post. Who is making better slides of Cardew?
> I always thought Cardew was inspirational.
Dear marcia;
Mel was responding to my post, which read as follows:
> I was a participant in the 1963 workshop held at USC with Hamada
> Shoji and his son Shinsaku. Mr. Hamada said and did many wonderful
> things, but I recall nothing of that nature. However, while
> visiting the University of Oregon in 1968, Michael Cardew gave a
> talk called "Categories and all That" during which he was asked if
> American potters were making good pots. he replied, " American
> potters are making good slides".
>
> Your mileage may vary.............
So the workshops were held some four or five years apart, and
Cardew's remark was addressed to the still present contingent of
American potters who are chasing publication. I should also mention
again that Cardew worked all morning in the studio making pots, and
at 11 gave us a Geology for Potters talk each day for 45 minutes or
so. He was writing his book, and used we lucky few to bounce his
notions off. Hope this clears the air.
Cheers!
Hank Murrow
www.murrow.biz/hank
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