Robin Wolf on mon 10 nov 08
I am looking for the standard Cone 10 Buttermilk in a Cone 6 Oxidation
version, if possible.
After much procrastination and consideration, a propane fill up this morning
of $1000 convinced me to make the leap from Cone 10 to Cone 6. Also, my
best gallery said that they have had requests for brighter colors from the
customers that like my work, so that plays into this decision also. I
enjoy and appreciate the simple beauty and bankable stability of Buttermilk
glaze, as it has been the glaze that makes up a good portion of the sales
that I have. If anyone knows the magic Cone 6 formula, I would be eternally
grateful!
My kiln is a MFT - ITC'd soft brick with an outer layer of 1" fiber, and I
was just recently able to replace her tarp blanket with a very nice (from
salvage so no cost) heavy stainless steel skin to the outside of her. She
is good and tight, and she seems to be pretty efficient. But, with the cost
of propane, I need to find more ways to squeeze my pennies even tighter -
hence the decision to move down to Cone 6, oxidation if possible.
I have MC6G, reading and re-reading. I have searched the Clayart archives,
see lots about the cone 10 recipe, but have yet to find a cone 6 version.
Since I am still what I consider a newbie to dedicated potting, this is the
time to make the switch - business is going fairly well, especially
considering the current economic atmosphere. I have a decent inventory
stash, so I have some time to play with clay/glazes and firing at the new
temp. I still have some cone 10 clay, so I am don't feel like my back is up
against the wall on this.
If there is no such animal, I would appreciate your recommendations for
substitution/testing. I have been very pleased with the cone 10 version
with Oribe sprayed over the Buttermilk, then fired in medium reduction. It
looks great on Laguana's Rod's Bod.
Robin Wolf
Rt 2 Box 142W
Kingfisher, OK
robinwolf@pldi.net
Mary Starosta on tue 11 nov 08
Robin,
Not sure if this is what you maybe looking for but I have a very nice CREAMY
whitebuttery like the color of a yellow lab that works well for me at cone
^6 ox. I am sure it was someone's at one time, but I have no idea who to
give credit to? Covers better thick and I like it over stoneware clays
mostly dark but it covers midway as well. Don't have much need for white
stoneware and cream?
http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/soulful-brown-eyes-creamy-glaze-recipe/
Good Luck
Mary Starosta
Colorado Potter
http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Robin Wolf wrote:
> I am looking for the standard Cone 10 Buttermilk in a Cone 6 Oxidation
> version, if possible.
>
>
>
> After much procrastination and consideration, a propane fill up this
> morning
> of $1000 convinced me to make the leap from Cone 10 to Cone 6. Also, my
> best gallery said that they have had requests for brighter colors from the
> customers that like my work, so that plays into this decision also. I
> enjoy and appreciate the simple beauty and bankable stability of Buttermilk
> glaze, as it has been the glaze that makes up a good portion of the sales
> that I have. If anyone knows the magic Cone 6 formula, I would be
> eternally
> grateful!
>
>
>
> My kiln is a MFT - ITC'd soft brick with an outer layer of 1" fiber, and I
> was just recently able to replace her tarp blanket with a very nice (from
> salvage so no cost) heavy stainless steel skin to the outside of her. She
> is good and tight, and she seems to be pretty efficient. But, with the
> cost
> of propane, I need to find more ways to squeeze my pennies even tighter -
> hence the decision to move down to Cone 6, oxidation if possible.
>
>
>
> I have MC6G, reading and re-reading. I have searched the Clayart archives,
> see lots about the cone 10 recipe, but have yet to find a cone 6 version.
>
>
>
> Since I am still what I consider a newbie to dedicated potting, this is the
> time to make the switch - business is going fairly well, especially
> considering the current economic atmosphere. I have a decent inventory
> stash, so I have some time to play with clay/glazes and firing at the new
> temp. I still have some cone 10 clay, so I am don't feel like my back is
> up
> against the wall on this.
>
>
>
> If there is no such animal, I would appreciate your recommendations for
> substitution/testing. I have been very pleased with the cone 10 version
> with Oribe sprayed over the Buttermilk, then fired in medium reduction. It
> looks great on Laguana's Rod's Bod.
>
>
>
> Robin Wolf
>
> Rt 2 Box 142W
>
> Kingfisher, OK
>
> robinwolf@pldi.net
>
--
Mary Starosta
www.StarostaTeam.com
ReMax Alliance
mary@starostateam.com
720-271-7523
Robin Wolf on tue 11 nov 08
Here are the recipes that I am using -
Buttermilk
Custer Feldspar 29.3
Flint 24.1
Talc 13.5
Gerst. Borate 10.5
Whiting 9.0
EPK 6.8
Dolomite 6.8
Zircopax 8.0
Oribe
Bone Ash 1.05
Talc 7.81
Whiting 22.36
Custer Feldspar 30.91
EPK 12.55
Flint 25.32
Add:
Copper Carb 6
Wares are bisqued to Cone 05. I do 2 dips of Buttermilk, then overspray w/
the Oribe, heavier at the top, lighter as it goes downward.
Advice from others out there that have made the move from cone 10 to cone 6
would be appreciated, too.
Robin Wolf
Rt 2 Box 142W
Kingfisher, OK 73750
robinwolf@pldi.net
405.368.0919
Steve Slatin on tue 11 nov 08
Robin --
There are, of course, various
glazes called 'buttermilk.' If you mean
something that looks like buttermilk
looks -- off-white in color, slightly
towards yellow -- and with more than a
hint of texture, you probably want a
semi-matte of some kind.
There are a wealth of these availabe in
the archives in ^6. I'd look for a
magnesium matte recipe, as opposed to
a calcium matte recipe, if I wanted a
somewhat yellower base. Have you
experimented with Don Goodrich's
magnesium base? It seems to do very
well with some basic colorants, and
has a nice 'hand.'
Best -- Steve S
--- On Mon, 11/10/08, Robin Wolf wrote:
> I am looking for the standard Cone 10 Buttermilk in a Cone 6
> Oxidation
> version, if possible.
>
>
>
> After much procrastination and consideration, a propane
> fill up this morning
> of $1000 convinced me to make the leap from Cone 10 to Cone
> 6. Also, my
> best gallery said that they have had requests for brighter
> colors from the
> customers that like my work, so that plays into this
> decision also. I
> enjoy and appreciate the simple beauty and bankable
> stability of Buttermilk
> glaze, as it has been the glaze that makes up a good
> portion of the sales
> that I have. If anyone knows the magic Cone 6 formula, I
> would be eternally
> grateful!
>
>
>
> My kiln is a MFT - ITC'd soft brick with an outer layer
> of 1" fiber, and I
> was just recently able to replace her tarp blanket with a
> very nice (from
> salvage so no cost) heavy stainless steel skin to the
> outside of her. She
> is good and tight, and she seems to be pretty efficient.
> But, with the cost
> of propane, I need to find more ways to squeeze my pennies
> even tighter -
> hence the decision to move down to Cone 6, oxidation if
> possible.
>
>
>
> I have MC6G, reading and re-reading. I have searched the
> Clayart archives,
> see lots about the cone 10 recipe, but have yet to find a
> cone 6 version.
>
>
>
> Since I am still what I consider a newbie to dedicated
> potting, this is the
> time to make the switch - business is going fairly well,
> especially
> considering the current economic atmosphere. I have a
> decent inventory
> stash, so I have some time to play with clay/glazes and
> firing at the new
> temp. I still have some cone 10 clay, so I am don't
> feel like my back is up
> against the wall on this.
>
>
>
> If there is no such animal, I would appreciate your
> recommendations for
> substitution/testing. I have been very pleased with the
> cone 10 version
> with Oribe sprayed over the Buttermilk, then fired in
> medium reduction. It
> looks great on Laguana's Rod's Bod.
>
>
>
> Robin Wolf
>
> Rt 2 Box 142W
>
> Kingfisher, OK
>
> robinwolf@pldi.net
Ron Roy on tue 18 nov 08
Hi Robin,
Here is the buttermilk with frit 3134 - and a little more boron to help it
melt at cone 6 - it is already short of alumina and silica so try not to
think of it as a durable glaze - I'm thinking the cone 10 version will melt
at cone 6 anyway - if this does not melt well send it back and I'll add
more boron - don't forget to add the 8% zircopax.
Do a 1000 gram test and fire with a cone nearby.
Buttermilk for cone 6 - RR
-----------------
CUSTER SPAR......... 19.00
SILICA.............. 23.00
TALC................ 16.50
WHITING............. 8.00
EPK................. 12.50
DOLOMITE............ 6.00
F3134............... 15.00
----------
100.00
RR
>Here are the recipes that I am using -
>
>
>
>Buttermilk
>
>Custer Feldspar 29.3
>
>Flint 24.1
>
>Talc 13.5
>
>Gerst. Borate 10.5
>
>Whiting 9.0
>
>EPK 6.8
>
>Dolomite 6.8
>
>Zircopax 8.0
>
>
>
>Oribe
>
>Bone Ash 1.05
>
>Talc 7.81
>
>Whiting 22.36
>
>Custer Feldspar 30.91
>
>EPK 12.55
>
>Flint 25.32
>
>
>
>Add:
>
>Copper Carb 6
>
>
>
>Wares are bisqued to Cone 05. I do 2 dips of Buttermilk, then overspray w/
>the Oribe, heavier at the top, lighter as it goes downward.
>
>
>
>Advice from others out there that have made the move from cone 10 to cone 6
>would be appreciated, too.
>
>
>
>Robin Wolf
Ron Roy
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
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