Barry Porter on sun 22 nov 09
For those of you that are interested in tile, you might want to check out=
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a=3D20
new forum that I recently added to forumotion. I searched for a good, =3D9=
1=3D
active=3D92=3D20
forum and couldn=3D92t find one, so, I started one. (yes, its still brand n=
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ew)
If anyone knows of a good and active forum already out there for tile mak=
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ers,=3D20
let me know! Would much rather join one that is already active=3D85..
I checked with folks at the tile specific sites like Tile Heritage Founda=
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tion and=3D20
they didn=3D92t seem to have much interest as I am sure that they are alrea=
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dy=3D20
busy with lots of other stuff. Even tried with the handmade tile folks i=
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n=3D20
Minnesota but no real reply there either.
So, it=3D92s up and running and if you have experience in tile making, the =
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site will=3D20
need moderators as that is the key to a really good forum!
Check it out and join if you have the time!
http://handmadetile.forumotion.net/
About me; I have been designing tile for 12 years and actually producing =
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my=3D20
own product for 5. I started as a wood carver and mold maker and one day=
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decided to produce some ceramic tile for myself. Then I was hooked.... =
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I=3D20
specialize in water fountains and fire surrounds.
On another note, the good shoe topic.
Most studios seem to have concrete floors and if you live in a place wher=
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e=3D20
winter shows up, you will have to agree that cold winter floors take a hi=
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gher=3D20
told on feet than do summer floors. My father-in-law installed a radiant=
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floor=3D20
in his shop a few years back but had never hooked up the boiler as he als=
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o=3D20
had forced air. He finally got around to it on a recent cold day here in=
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Kansas=3D20
City and I can=3D92t tell you how much difference it made! I was amazed! =
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I left=3D20
after working on dies for 6 or 7 hours and my feet did not ache=3D85 It=3D=
92=3D
s just=3D20
something to think about. For existing studios, they sell relatively che=
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ap UL=3D20
approved electric kits that can be laid out on top of existing concrete (=
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after=3D20
some kind of primer/binder is applied to the existing floor), then add an=
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other=3D20
inch of concrete over that. These get installed only in places where you=
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regularly stand and work.
Also, I am just over six feet tall and I find that raising the height of =
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standard=3D20
working tables by about 6 inches seems to help my back. Being hunched ov=
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er=3D20
any more than you have to be is a killer for most backs and mine in parti=
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cular.
Porter
David Woof on mon 23 nov 09
Hi Barry Porter=3D2C
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You present as quite accomplished in your field. You must have much to off=
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er. Tell us more.
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For those who wish for a narrow topic specific forum=3D2C the point is usua=
ll=3D
y missed that all the subjects discussed on Clayart address the deeper tech=
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nical and aesthetic concerns of any specific interest in clay.=3D20
Typically these specific sites degenerate to "hey see my pictures=3D2C or m=
y =3D
blog=3D2C or next time you are in town let's do lunch" because the focus c=
an=3D
't be supported by enough meaningful content.
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So unless one is satisfied with "Dial a Tile" where one buys a prepared til=
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e body=3D2C uses a tile press=3D2C squirts on a commercially prepared tile =
glaz=3D
e which comes with firing instructions for a programmed firing=3D3B I'm su=
re=3D
one could find much to speak of=3D2C questions to ask and animated discuss=
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ns on this Clayart forum.=3D20
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Here many creative and curious minds absorb and reflect on much that doesn'=
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t have specific pertinence to their present activities with clay but serves=
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to build a broad background that gives them a professional base and reach =
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in clay to draw from and inspire creative thought and cross over innovation=
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. "the more you know"..... Stick around=3D2C Talk to us!
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I so much appreciate that even though there are private conversations flyin=
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g between members of this list that could edify others=3D2C those who are c=
om=3D
mitted educators and experts in various fields continue to post their findi=
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ngs=3D2C informative material and experience.
=3D20
David Woof Clarkdale AZ.
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12. Looking for tile specific interest
Posted by: "Barry Porter" porter@COTTAGECRAFTER.COM=3D20
Date: Sun Nov 22=3D2C 2009 6:34 pm ((PST))
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For those of you that are interested in tile=3D2C you might want to check o=
ut=3D
a=3D20
new forum that I recently added to forumotion. I searched for a good=3D2C =
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active=3D92=3D20
forum and couldn=3D92t find one=3D2C so=3D2C I started one. (yes=3D2C its s=
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nd new)
If anyone knows of a good and active forum already out there for tile maker=
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let me know! Would much rather join one that is already active=3D85..
I checked with folks at the tile specific sites like Tile Heritage Foundati=
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on and=3D20
they didn=3D92t seem to have much interest as I am sure that they are alrea=
dy=3D
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busy with lots of other stuff. Even tried with the handmade tile folks in=
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Minnesota but no real reply there either.
So=3D2C it=3D92s up and running and if you have experience in tile making=
=3D2C th=3D
e site will=3D20
need moderators as that is the key to a really good forum!
Check it out and join if you have the time!
http://handmadetile.forumotion.net/
About me=3D3B I have been designing tile for 12 years and actually producin=
g =3D
my=3D20
own product for 5. I started as a wood carver and mold maker and one day=3D=
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decided to produce some ceramic tile for myself. Then I was hooked.... I=3D=
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specialize in water fountains and fire surrounds.
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Barry Porter on mon 23 nov 09
David,
I don't know how accomplished I am, but I do know that experience has=3D20
taught me one thing; I have more to learn than I presently know. Always!
I take,,,, and I think,,,,, I understand your points.
'enough meaningful content' - So, its the internet, more information than=
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you=3D20
need is better than a lack thereof, right? Who decides meaningful conten=
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t=3D20
anyway. Wink.... One of those eye of the beholder kinds if things...
I have been on and off of Clayart over the years and to be honest, unless=
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I=3D20
had a very direct question, there was never very much interest in tile. =
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Go do=3D20
a search on the word 'tile' in the threads, you will see. Do another sea=
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rch on=3D20
anything related to tile and find the same thing,,,, not a whole lot.
I have however received some great information from Clayart-ers and=3D20
appreciate the input of some very talented folks!! So, thanks, as I just=
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happened to have done in another thread yesterday.
When I started in tile, other than a few books, there wasn't much out the=
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re=3D20
and some of the books were so elementary, folks with even the least bit o=
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f=3D20
imagination could have figured it out on their own. Some of the books we=
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re=3D20
however - GREAT! (I might help to know that I am an Engineer by trade but=
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the stereotypical Acquarian (sp?)) I tried to contact nearly all of the =
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existing=3D20
tile makers out there, all but three of which, didn't even reply. I made=
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a point=3D20
right then to NOT be that way. I am happy to share all of the informatio=
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n,=3D20
experience, and 'how to' that I have. I live just north of the KCAI here=
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in=3D20
Kansas City and had a group of students come to me for instruction on mol=
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d=3D20
making. Was only too happy to share that info.=3D20
As for me personally, I am far more interested in the process of tile des=
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ign and=3D20
the artistry thereof than ever being a large or small tile manufacturer.=3D=
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Translated, I have a day job with benefits.=3D20=3D20
Tile making for me is a walk back through history. Every time I pick up =
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a 100=3D20
year old tile and think that every hand that touched this thing in manufa=
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cture=3D20
is now gone, at a minimum, that proves that their art is at least still h=
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ere to=3D20
be enjoyed and they are somehow, still alive and still with us.=3D20=3D20
Tile also tells a great story of everything from changing taste of the ge=
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neral=3D20
public to important places, dates, times of major world occurances. Over=
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the=3D20
years, I have spent twice as much on artifacts whether tile or tile relat=
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ed,=3D20
than I have ever made from the sales of my tile. Its likely to continue =
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that=3D20
way to the raised eyebrow of my spouse. LOL
So, still, I don't know what I really have to offer Clayart but my somewh=
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at=3D20
accomplished methods of mold making, the gadgets that I make based on=3D20
necessity and a pretty fair knowledge of tile makers in the US that parti=
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cularly=3D20
held high the standards of the Arts and Crafts Movement. I would suggest=
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that potters by deninition are still doing this.
My intent with another forum was certainly not to take away from anything=
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here! Clayart is a holistic place and therefore a great place to get inf=
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o in=3D20
general but I have to say, sometimes, I just wanna talk about tile.... H=
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aving a=3D20
place to do that, doesn't hurt anyone as far as I can tell.
Now, I have to go off and pay for some Lithographs I just bought on Ebay =
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of=3D20
Osborne designs for some Low Art Tiles that I was lucky enough to win....=
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Yes,=3D20
that eyebrow is up, staring at me from across the room - I am probably in=
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trouble! Again..... See, if you were a tile freak like me, you would be =
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giving=3D20
me a high five right now....... and ducking as the shoe came at you from=3D=
20=3D
across the room....
Happy posting!
Porter
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:29:40 -0700, David Woof=3D20
wrote:
>Hi Barry Porter,
>
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>
>You present as quite accomplished in your field. You must have much to=3D=
20=3D
offer. Tell us more.
>
>=3D20
>
>For those who wish for a narrow topic specific forum, the point is usual=
=3D
ly=3D20
missed that all the subjects discussed on Clayart address the deeper tech=
=3D
nical=3D20
and aesthetic concerns of any specific interest in clay.=3D20
>
>Typically these specific sites degenerate to "hey see my pictures, or my=
=3D
=3D20
blog, or next time you are in town let's do lunch" because the focus can=
=3D
't be=3D20
supported by enough meaningful content.
>
>=3D20
>
>So unless one is satisfied with "Dial a Tile" where one buys a prepared =
=3D
tile=3D20
body, uses a tile press, squirts on a commercially prepared tile glaze wh=
=3D
ich=3D20
comes with firing instructions for a programmed firing; I'm sure one cou=
=3D
ld find=3D20
much to speak of, questions to ask and animated discussions on this Claya=
=3D
rt=3D20
forum.=3D20
>
>=3D20
>
>Here many creative and curious minds absorb and reflect on much that=3D20
doesn't have specific pertinence to their present activities with clay bu=
=3D
t=3D20
serves to build a broad background that gives them a professional base an=
=3D
d=3D20
reach in clay to draw from and inspire creative thought and cross over=3D20=
=3D
innovation. "the more you know"..... Stick around, Talk to us!
>
>=3D20
>
>I so much appreciate that even though there are private conversations fl=
=3D
ying=3D20
between members of this list that could edify others, those who are=3D20
committed educators and experts in various fields continue to post their=3D=
20=3D
findings, informative material and experience.
>
>=3D20
>
>David Woof Clarkdale AZ.
>
>_________________________________________________________
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