Frank Gaydos on sat 22 may 99
___I thought this information from the good folks at Web Site Journal was
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W E B S I T E J O U R N A L
Vol.2, No.20__________________________________________________
_________________________________http://www.WebSiteJournal.com
"Delivering Insight from Web Experts to Web Site Owners"
May 19, 1999
INTERVIEW____________________________________________________
____________________________YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO BE ONLINE
When the Web first began it was almost completely unregulated.
As a result an abundance of issues began to surface such as
pornography, copyright infringement and libel. No one knew where
to draw the line when it came to the Internet. But the feds are
finally starting to wake up and take notice; some may even say
they are paying too much attention to Internet issues. As a Web
site owner it is important that you know what your online rights
are so this week we asked William Vogeler, an Internet lawyer at
Gruenbeck & Vogeler a law firm that represents predominantly Web
based companies what he thought Web site owners should know to
protect themselves online.
Editor: What rights do Web site owners have when it comes to
the content and images on their sites?
Vogeler: Through copyright laws, Web site owners have the
right to protect original content and images on their sites from
others who might copy them. In addition, Web site owners may
protect original names, logos or phrases, such as domain names,
through trademark laws. Copyright and trademark are part of an
area of law called intellectual property.
Editor: What should Web site owners do if they find their
content has been copied?
Vogeler: The laws vary throughout the world, but the United
States Copyright Act governs copyright issues in America. The
United States also subscribes to international treaties that
provide domestic copyright holders with some protection in
foreign countries.
To protect material in the United States, Web site owners should
secure a copyright notice to any original image or content they
put online. The notice should include the word "copyright" or
the "(C)" symbol, the name of the copyright holder and year the
work was first created.
Web site owners may vary their notices to accommodate business
needs, such as granting others the license to copy site
information with certain restrictions. For example:
"Materials may be freely copied and distributed subject to the
inclusion of the copyright notice and our Web site address."
"Permission is granted to electronically copy and to print in
hard copy portions of this Web site for the sole purpose of
placing an order or using this site as a shopping resource."
In addition, Web site owners may want the additional protection
of copyright registration. By completing appropriate forms and
paying a fee, Web site owners can register their copyrights with
the United States Copyright Office.
Registration gives copyright holders the authority to sue for
statutory damages up to $100,000 and attorney's fees should
someone unlawfully copy their original work. Moreover, copyright
holders may be able to recover damages for their losses and even
the copyright infringer's profits from the unauthorized use.
Editor: Why should Web site owners consider protecting their
assets?
Vogeler: Lawsuits, debts, collections and a myriad of claims
can put an unprepared Web site owner out of business. Thus, Web
site owners should consider different ways to protect their
assets from liabilities that are inherent in the business world.
To protect owners from such liabilities, individuals can do
business in forms that are legally separate from themselves.
Corporations and limited liability companies, for example, are
two business forms that allow owners to engage in business
without liability for their companies' debts, lawsuits and other
claims.
Editor: Can you get sued for defamation or invasion of
privacy based on posted material on your site?
Vogeler: Yes, as a Web site owner you can be sued for
defamation, invasion of privacy and other civil wrongs that can
occur online. Defamation, called libel when it is in print or
online, arises when a false statement is published about a
person that injures his or her reputation. Invasion of privacy,
which can result from a variety of intrusions, such as
electronically eavesdropping on people, generally happens when
someone intrudes on another person's expectation of privacy.
Editor: Why should Web site owners consider including
disclaimers on their site? What type should they include?
Vogeler: Web site owners should consider including disclaimers
on their sites for a variety of reasons, but generally to
inform visitors about the nature of the content on the Web site.
For example, a Web site can contain a statement limiting the
owner's liability for goods, services or information that may be
offered on the site. Disclaimers can also be included on
hyperlinks to inform visitors about the nature of content on the
linked sites. Such as:
"This site contains links to other Internet sites. These links
are not endorsements of any products or services in such sites,
and no information in such site has been endorsed or approved by
this site."
Editor: What are the most common legal pitfalls for Web site
owners?
Vogeler: The Information Superhighway has many legal potholes,
and Web site owners should watch out for them. Copyright,
trademark, defamation and invasion of privacy are just a few.
Other common areas of concern are obscenity, security,
confidentiality and advertising.
It is hard to know all the legal problems a Web business will
encounter, but owners should do what they can to avoid the
pitfalls before they fall into them.
About the Expert
William K. Vogeler is a partner in Gruenbeck & Vogeler
(http://www.gruenbeckvogeler.com), an Internet law firm based in
Irvine, California. Their clients, primarily Internet service
providers and web-based businesses, include Fiberlink
Communications, TeleNet, PageMasters and HyperChecks. For more
information email: wvogeler@home.com.
Frank Gaydos
510 Gerritt St.
Philadelphia,Pa.
19147-5821 USA
fgaydos@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/fgaydos
http://www.members.xoom.com/fgaydos/
Brian Crocker on tue 25 may 99
Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it is
today..
If you dont want it copied dont e.mail it or put it in a web site, simple as
that, yes I know there are all those if's and but's.
If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE IT......Simple??
At 09:19 AM 22/05/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>___I thought this information from the good folks at Web Site Journal was
>interesting enough to pass along to the Clayarters. This free info arrives
>daily. Register at:
>
>http://www.WebSiteJournal.com
>
>
> W E B S I T E J O U R N A L
>
>Vol.2, No.20__________________________________________________
>_________________________________http://www.WebSiteJournal.com
>
> "Delivering Insight from Web Experts to Web Site Owners"
>
> May 19, 1999
>
>
>INTERVIEW____________________________________________________
>____________________________YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO BE ONLINE
>
>When the Web first began it was almost completely unregulated.
>As a result an abundance of issues began to surface such as
>pornography, copyright infringement and libel. No one knew where
>to draw the line when it came to the Internet. But the feds are
>finally starting to wake up and take notice; some may even say
>they are paying too much attention to Internet issues. As a Web
>site owner it is important that you know what your online rights
>are so this week we asked William Vogeler, an Internet lawyer at
>Gruenbeck & Vogeler a law firm that represents predominantly Web
>based companies what he thought Web site owners should know to
>protect themselves online.
>
>
>Editor: What rights do Web site owners have when it comes to
>the content and images on their sites?
>
>Vogeler: Through copyright laws, Web site owners have the
>right to protect original content and images on their sites from
>others who might copy them. In addition, Web site owners may
>protect original names, logos or phrases, such as domain names,
>through trademark laws. Copyright and trademark are part of an
>area of law called intellectual property.
>
>
>Editor: What should Web site owners do if they find their
>content has been copied?
>
>Vogeler: The laws vary throughout the world, but the United
>States Copyright Act governs copyright issues in America. The
>United States also subscribes to international treaties that
>provide domestic copyright holders with some protection in
>foreign countries.
>
>To protect material in the United States, Web site owners should
>secure a copyright notice to any original image or content they
>put online. The notice should include the word "copyright" or
>the "(C)" symbol, the name of the copyright holder and year the
>work was first created.
>
>Web site owners may vary their notices to accommodate business
>needs, such as granting others the license to copy site
>information with certain restrictions. For example:
>
>"Materials may be freely copied and distributed subject to the
>inclusion of the copyright notice and our Web site address."
>
>"Permission is granted to electronically copy and to print in
>hard copy portions of this Web site for the sole purpose of
>placing an order or using this site as a shopping resource."
>
>In addition, Web site owners may want the additional protection
>of copyright registration. By completing appropriate forms and
>paying a fee, Web site owners can register their copyrights with
>the United States Copyright Office.
>
>Registration gives copyright holders the authority to sue for
>statutory damages up to $100,000 and attorney's fees should
>someone unlawfully copy their original work. Moreover, copyright
>holders may be able to recover damages for their losses and even
>the copyright infringer's profits from the unauthorized use.
>
>
>Editor: Why should Web site owners consider protecting their
>assets?
>
>Vogeler: Lawsuits, debts, collections and a myriad of claims
>can put an unprepared Web site owner out of business. Thus, Web
>site owners should consider different ways to protect their
>assets from liabilities that are inherent in the business world.
>
>To protect owners from such liabilities, individuals can do
>business in forms that are legally separate from themselves.
>Corporations and limited liability companies, for example, are
>two business forms that allow owners to engage in business
>without liability for their companies' debts, lawsuits and other
>claims.
>
>
>Editor: Can you get sued for defamation or invasion of
>privacy based on posted material on your site?
>
>Vogeler: Yes, as a Web site owner you can be sued for
>defamation, invasion of privacy and other civil wrongs that can
>occur online. Defamation, called libel when it is in print or
>online, arises when a false statement is published about a
>person that injures his or her reputation. Invasion of privacy,
>which can result from a variety of intrusions, such as
>electronically eavesdropping on people, generally happens when
>someone intrudes on another person's expectation of privacy.
>
>
>Editor: Why should Web site owners consider including
>disclaimers on their site? What type should they include?
>
>Vogeler: Web site owners should consider including disclaimers
>on their sites for a variety of reasons, but generally to
>inform visitors about the nature of the content on the Web site.
>For example, a Web site can contain a statement limiting the
>owner's liability for goods, services or information that may be
>offered on the site. Disclaimers can also be included on
>hyperlinks to inform visitors about the nature of content on the
>linked sites. Such as:
>
>"This site contains links to other Internet sites. These links
>are not endorsements of any products or services in such sites,
>and no information in such site has been endorsed or approved by
>this site."
>
>
>Editor: What are the most common legal pitfalls for Web site
>owners?
>
>Vogeler: The Information Superhighway has many legal potholes,
>and Web site owners should watch out for them. Copyright,
>trademark, defamation and invasion of privacy are just a few.
>Other common areas of concern are obscenity, security,
>confidentiality and advertising.
>
>It is hard to know all the legal problems a Web business will
>encounter, but owners should do what they can to avoid the
>pitfalls before they fall into them.
>
>
>About the Expert
>
>William K. Vogeler is a partner in Gruenbeck & Vogeler
>(http://www.gruenbeckvogeler.com), an Internet law firm based in
>Irvine, California. Their clients, primarily Internet service
>providers and web-based businesses, include Fiberlink
>Communications, TeleNet, PageMasters and HyperChecks. For more
>information email: wvogeler@home.com.
>
>
>
>Frank Gaydos
>510 Gerritt St.
>Philadelphia,Pa.
>19147-5821 USA
>
>fgaydos@erols.com
>http://www.erols.com/fgaydos
>http://www.members.xoom.com/fgaydos/
>
>
Brian Crocker.
4 Erica Street,
Tea Tree Gully 5091,
South Australia. [e.mail] crocker@dove.net.au
With them the Seed of Wisdom did I sow,
And with my own hand labour'd it to grow:
And this was all the Harvest that I reap'd --
"I came like Water, and like Wind I go." The Rubaiyat.
Frank Gaydos on wed 26 may 99
From: Brian Crocker
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
is
today..
If you dont want it copied dont e.mail it or put it in a web site, simple
as
that, yes I know there are all those if's and but's.
If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
IT......Simple??
--------------------------------------- original
message-----------------------------------------------
Well Brian, thats the first time anyone went off on a rant on me while on
this list.
I think you miss the point of the information. You agree there are 'if's
and but's'. It is the " if's and but's" that copyright is made for. I should
be confident that what I post to the web will be protected. By your logic it
will be my fault if someone steals my designs, pictures, ideas, just because
I post it on a web site. I must have been asking for it. I should have known
better. That would create an atmosphere where anyone with quality work will
keep it to themselves, not sharing, afraid it will be ripped off. How boring
the web sites will become. It's a classic case of blaming the victim and not
the offender. The use of copyright is a worldwide practice. If there were no
need for copyright the practice would die out on it's own and we would not
be sharing these ideas about it.
"If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
IT......Simple??"
I agree, in a perfect world it is a simple idea that would work. But, we
live in a very imperfect world full of lazy, unimaginative, greedy folks who
would steal an idea at the drop of a trimming tool or a typewriter.
"Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
is
today.."
I'm not sure I follow your logic on this one....I posted the 'rubbish' as
you so eloquently
stated, as a follow up answer to a Clayarters question about web copyright.
I certainly do not wish to make anyone richer other than myself. And, why
would this information affect the Clayarters in a negative fashion?
Frank Gaydos
Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on thu 27 may 99
Frank---
This brings up an interesting point. Is copying your designs from your web
page any different than copying your designs from a show that you are in? In
other words, what is the actual intellectual property you are copyrighting when
you copyright a website? Is it the picture of your work, or is it the design of
the work itself? It would seem to me that if you copyright a website then it
is the picture of your work on the website and not the design of the work. To
copyright the design of the work, the work itself would have to be copyrighted.
This has always been a very fuzzy area, I think, in definitions of intellectual
property and copyright. And, I don't think you can copyright a concept. I'm
not even sure you can copyright a painting or a one-of-a-kind design.
What's your thoughts on this?
Sandy
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Gaydos [SMTP:fgaydos@erols.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 12:59 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Copyright on the Web.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
From: Brian Crocker
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
is
today..
If you dont want it copied dont e.mail it or put it in a web site, simple
as
that, yes I know there are all those if's and but's.
If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
IT......Simple??
--------------------------------------- original
message-----------------------------------------------
Well Brian, thats the first time anyone went off on a rant on me while on
this list.
I think you miss the point of the information. You agree there are 'if's
and but's'. It is the " if's and but's" that copyright is made for. I should
be confident that what I post to the web will be protected. By your logic it
will be my fault if someone steals my designs, pictures, ideas, just because
I post it on a web site. I must have been asking for it. I should have known
better. That would create an atmosphere where anyone with quality work will
keep it to themselves, not sharing, afraid it will be ripped off. How boring
the web sites will become. It's a classic case of blaming the victim and not
the offender. The use of copyright is a worldwide practice. If there were no
need for copyright the practice would die out on it's own and we would not
be sharing these ideas about it.
"If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
IT......Simple??"
I agree, in a perfect world it is a simple idea that would work. But, we
live in a very imperfect world full of lazy, unimaginative, greedy folks who
would steal an idea at the drop of a trimming tool or a typewriter.
"Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
is
today.."
I'm not sure I follow your logic on this one....I posted the 'rubbish' as
you so eloquently
stated, as a follow up answer to a Clayarters question about web copyright.
I certainly do not wish to make anyone richer other than myself. And, why
would this information affect the Clayarters in a negative fashion?
Frank Gaydos
Carol Jackaway on thu 27 may 99
Good for you Frank, I wonder how many ideas this person stole to come up
with that logic? In his mind, all the products on my site are up for grabs
just because they are on the web? Get real. Sometimes people rant just to
rant regardless of the subject, but just to hear (or read) themselves. Don't
take it to heart, he's a jerk!!
Carol
the Gallaghers on thu 27 may 99
Ok, Question.......
Is an image of a person taken without permission, used in a newspaper and
published, now copyrighted property of said newspaper or photographer, or
can that image then be used as subject matter for a sculpture and then
become copyrighted property of the sculptor??
Inquiring minds want to know!
Michelle
In Oregon
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Gaydos
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Copyright on the Web.
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>From: Brian Crocker
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
> business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
>is
> today..
>
> If you dont want it copied dont e.mail it or put it in a web site, simple
>as
> that, yes I know there are all those if's and but's.
>
>If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
>IT......Simple??
>
>--------------------------------------- original
>message-----------------------------------------------
>
>Well Brian, thats the first time anyone went off on a rant on me while on
>this list.
>I think you miss the point of the information. You agree there are 'if's
>and but's'. It is the " if's and but's" that copyright is made for. I
should
>be confident that what I post to the web will be protected. By your logic
it
>will be my fault if someone steals my designs, pictures, ideas, just
because
>I post it on a web site. I must have been asking for it. I should have
known
>better. That would create an atmosphere where anyone with quality work will
>keep it to themselves, not sharing, afraid it will be ripped off. How
boring
>the web sites will become. It's a classic case of blaming the victim and
not
>the offender. The use of copyright is a worldwide practice. If there were
no
>need for copyright the practice would die out on it's own and we would not
>be sharing these ideas about it.
>
>"If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
>IT......Simple??"
>I agree, in a perfect world it is a simple idea that would work. But, we
>live in a very imperfect world full of lazy, unimaginative, greedy folks
who
>would steal an idea at the drop of a trimming tool or a typewriter.
>
>
>"Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
> business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
>is
> today.."
>I'm not sure I follow your logic on this one....I posted the 'rubbish' as
>you so eloquently
>stated, as a follow up answer to a Clayarters question about web copyright.
>I certainly do not wish to make anyone richer other than myself. And, why
>would this information affect the Clayarters in a negative fashion?
>
>Frank Gaydos
Tom Buck on fri 28 may 99
Brian:
Writers experienced in publishing (as I am) know that copyright is
a very frail thing. Copyright laws generally are meant to prevent piracy
and unfair re-use. And yes I fully recognize that any postings I make to
the Net will be largely out of my control. So I do temper my efforts to
safeguard a possibly good article in future.
At present, I post a Glaze FAQ monthly on the newsgroup
rec.crafts.pottery (and similar FAQs, Raku, Data, Clay, are posted by
Steven Branfman, Michelle Lowe, and Evan Dresel). Tony Hansen has
generously posted my article on Raku Lustres on his website,
www.digitalfire.com/education/glaze.
So, I have two pieces on the Net where I claim all or residual
rights. Does this do me any good? Yes, in my view, it does. Steven B
concurs. He is a published author (two books in print). And he says he
wants to keep his Raku FAQs on the newsgroup because it brings him into
contact with new potters.
I cite a caution at the beginning of my FAQ, namely, that this is
offered solely for the person who downloads it, and it is not to be used
in any copy form or in any handout in a class. I put a lot of effort into
writing and revising this FAQ, and I would be most displeased if someone
else were to benefit from my work. I do not think principled people, like
most potters, would take advantage of me and copy my work without
permission. But if it were to happen, could I take legal steps to end it?
Of course not, simply because the Net is worldwide and national laws would
have little extra-territorality (although USA lawmakers prefer to think
otherwise).
Hence, Brian, you can rest your fears that copyright would
interfere with this great Net universe. We will keep yakking at each other
without any restriction except good taste.
Good luck with your mineral processing project. Til later. Peace.
Tom.
Tom Buck )
tel: 905-389-2339 (westend Lake Ontario, province of Ontario, Canada).
mailing address: 373 East 43rd Street,
Hamilton ON L8T 3E1 Canada
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Brian Crocker wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
> business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it is
> today..
>
> If you dont want it copied dont e.mail it or put it in a web site, simple as
> that, yes I know there are all those if's and but's.
>
> If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE IT......Simple??
Frank Gaydos on fri 28 may 99
Good questions Sandy,
I am NOT an expert on copyright. I was just passing on info I thought
germane to a question someone had about web copyright. I'm actually very
surprised it generated so much reaction. My feeling is read it, use it, or
delete it and move on.
I do know contemporary paintings are copyrighted. Try reproducing a Andy
Warhol design on your work and the Warhol estate will have butt in court
pronto.
Photos can be copyrighted and are. Whether the persons in the photo wanted
to be in the photo or not. The photographer created, captured, composed the
instant in time. His Art.
My photo of my platters is not art per se, so I'm copyrighting the design.
I'm not copyrighting the web page, rather the designs located on it.
According to the information in that article, "Through copyright laws, Web
site owners have the right to protect original content and images on their
sites from others who might copy them. In addition, Web site owners may
protect original names, logos or phrases, such as domain names,
through trademark laws. Copyright and trademark are part of an area of law
called intellectual property." Now we both know the same on copyright law.
:>)
Now, you know and I know that ceramics design is ripped off all day long.
And more the shame for it. But, because they are not 'exactly' the same, I
don't think we can protect our work as readily as painters or photographers.
Also, potters are perverse in holding 'workshops' for all the world to come
and learn our techniques and apply it to our own work. But, as Ray Carlton
states, if I may paraphrase ,even if you are trying to copy each others
work, it is always going to have some of your personality in it.
I'm personally not at all worried that my work will be copied. I might even
be flattered. Seems to be if your work is widely copied then you 'have
arrived'.
It only takes about a minute to apply the copyright symbol to your site and
you can also electronically watermark your pictures if that is important to
you.
You asked some interesting questions, good food for thought.
Finally, I have it on my site because you are supposed to, not really sure
it amounts to a hill of beans however.
Frank Gaydos
510 Gerritt St.
Philadelphia,Pa.
19147-5821 USA
fgaydos@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/fgaydos
http://members.xoom.com/fgaydos/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI)
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: Copyright on the Web.
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Frank---
> This brings up an interesting point. Is copying your designs from your
web
> page any different than copying your designs from a show that you are in?
In
> other words, what is the actual intellectual property you are copyrighting
when
> you copyright a website? Is it the picture of your work, or is it the
design of
> the work itself? It would seem to me that if you copyright a website
then it
> is the picture of your work on the website and not the design of the work.
To
> copyright the design of the work, the work itself would have to be
copyrighted.
> This has always been a very fuzzy area, I think, in definitions of
intellectual
> property and copyright. And, I don't think you can copyright a concept.
I'm
> not even sure you can copyright a painting or a one-of-a-kind design.
>
> What's your thoughts on this?
> Sandy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Gaydos [SMTP:fgaydos@erols.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 12:59 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: Copyright on the Web.
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> From: Brian Crocker
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
> business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
> is
> today..
>
> If you dont want it copied dont e.mail it or put it in a web site, simple
> as
> that, yes I know there are all those if's and but's.
>
> If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
> IT......Simple??
>
> --------------------------------------- original
> message-----------------------------------------------
>
> Well Brian, thats the first time anyone went off on a rant on me while on
> this list.
> I think you miss the point of the information. You agree there are 'if's
> and but's'. It is the " if's and but's" that copyright is made for. I
should
> be confident that what I post to the web will be protected. By your logic
it
> will be my fault if someone steals my designs, pictures, ideas, just
because
> I post it on a web site. I must have been asking for it. I should have
known
> better. That would create an atmosphere where anyone with quality work
will
> keep it to themselves, not sharing, afraid it will be ripped off. How
boring
> the web sites will become. It's a classic case of blaming the victim and
not
> the offender. The use of copyright is a worldwide practice. If there were
no
> need for copyright the practice would die out on it's own and we would not
> be sharing these ideas about it.
>
> "If another's material is involved get permission or DON'T USE
> IT......Simple??"
> I agree, in a perfect world it is a simple idea that would work. But, we
> live in a very imperfect world full of lazy, unimaginative, greedy folks
who
> would steal an idea at the drop of a trimming tool or a typewriter.
>
>
> "Start this Copyright rubbish on the clayart web just to keep lawyers in
> business and you can say goodbye to this wonderfull group of people as it
> is
> today.."
> I'm not sure I follow your logic on this one....I posted the 'rubbish' as
> you so eloquently
> stated, as a follow up answer to a Clayarters question about web
copyright.
> I certainly do not wish to make anyone richer other than myself. And, why
> would this information affect the Clayarters in a negative fashion?
>
> Frank Gaydos
Debra Wills on mon 7 jun 99
FYI: I do copyright my work. It cost's $20 and to me it is worth it. You are
protecting your own work...If you don't and someone gets your design they
can get it copyrighted and keep you from making and selling it! I figure
this is something I can do to protect my own work. Sure there will be times,
people are greedy, your ideas can be used and would you ever know??? Oh
well, if you are VERY famous-you will find out...and if not--you should have
a big enough following that you can still sell your original ideas and not
worry. I copyright all my original sculptures...I am setting up a Web site
and I don't know about all the fuss over this. I'd rather use my 'own'
backgrounds than 'web-based-backgrounds'-etc. I'm having a hard time getting
my web master to do what I want!
Debra~~in New Mexico~went camping last night & everyone froze!!! but, down
here in the desert it's HOT!!!!
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Debra Wills on mon 7 jun 99
To request Copyright Office publications including application forms and
circulars, write to:
Publications Section, LM-455
Copyright Office
Library of Congress
Washington, D.C. 20559-6000
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Susan Fox Hirschmann on tue 8 jun 99
Hi DEBra,
I am filing copyright through the Office of Copyright of the Library of
Congress on a new design. And i am about to trademark the name. My question
to you is do i need an additional copyright on the web? And how does one go
about getting one.
Thanx for the info.
susan fox hirschmann
annandale, virginia.....sweltering at near 100 degrees!
Cindy Cabrera on wed 9 jun 99
Hi Susan:
As far as to trademark for the web, what you need to
trademark is your domain name (www.name.com) through
Internic (www.internic.com). Under US law, a
trademark owner may give notice of a claim to a
trademark by placing a notice symbol next to the mark
(R, TM, SM).
Good luck,
Cindy Cabrera
--- Susan Fox Hirschmann wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Hi DEBra,
>
> I am filing copyright through the Office of
> Copyright of the Library of
> Congress on a new design. And i am about to
> trademark the name. My question
> to you is do i need an additional copyright on the
> web? And how does one go
> about getting one.
> Thanx for the info.
>
> susan fox hirschmann
> annandale, virginia.....sweltering at near 100
> degrees!
>
===
Cindy Cabrera
San Juan, Puerto Rico
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