Terrance Lazaroff on sat 10 mar 01
I don't know if you got the msg. So I will send it again. Will the =
author pay copyright for use of photos?
Terrance
I do not do instruments but I have friends that do. My question is do =
you
pay copyright for the use of the photos?
Terrance
Greetings Clayarters!
You came through for me with your contributions to my first book, The
Extruder Book. Now, I=92m hoping you=92ll do it again as my co-author, =
Barry
Hall, and I begin researching and assembling material for =93From Mud To
Music,=94 a book all about musical instruments made from clay.
This will be a truly international book in scope and variety. Barry and =
I
are collecting photos of a wide variety of instruments from all over the
world, and, if you make musical instruments from clay, we=92d like to =
offer
you the opportunity to have a photo or two of your work published in =
this
new book to be published by The American Ceramic Society.
INSTRUCTIONS: We=92re looking for excellent-quality, 35mm slides or
transparencies of your ceramic instruments. With each photograph, we=92d =
like
you to provide a detailed paragraph in which you explain how you made =
the
piece, i.e., how you shaped it, the clay you used, how you decorated it,
and your firing technique. If your instrument is non-traditional or
experimental, we=92d like you to explain how the instrument is played.
Please put your name and the type of instrument on each slide. If the
instrument has an unusual name, we=92ll need that too. Also, please =
number
each slide to correspond with the numbered descriptive paragraphs you
provide.
If you make an instrument but you=92re not sure if we=92d be interested =
in it,
please contact Barry or me by email. We=92ll gladly talk it over with =
you.
Submit your slides to:
Daryl Baird
>From Mud To Music
P.O. Box 876
Sandpoint, ID 83864-0851
If you have questions about the book or about these instructions please
write to us at either of these email addresses: Daryl Baird =96
clayguy@sandpoint.net or Barry Hall =96 barry@ninestones.com
Many thanks to everyone on the list. We=92ll keep you up to date on our
progress with From Mud To Music.
Regards,
Daryl Baird
Cindy Strnad on sun 11 mar 01
Terrance,
I'm not the one who called for photos, but maybe I can clarify the copyright
thing. I'm not sure what you're asking about when you say, "Will the author
pay copyright for use of the photos?"
The publisher will copyright the book, and this includes the photos. You
should retain (in writing) your copyright of the photo (you have a copyright
by virtue of your act of creation--no requirement exists for you to register
that fact, though you may do so if you like). The instance of the photo in
the actual book will be protected for you by the publisher's copyright. You
should grant written permission to the publisher for one-time use only of
the photo.
If you're asking whether you will be paid for your submission, well, from
the tone of the letter, I would guess the authors are requesting donations.
Whether you wish to be paid or not is your call.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
David Hendley on sun 11 mar 01
In a word, no.
The publishers of these types of books do not pay for pictures of
artwork used in the books. They consider it 'publicity' for the artist.
They will sometimes offer a gratis copy of the finished book, but
sometimes not even that, only 'tearsheets' of your page.
--
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Terrance Lazaroff
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 7:03 PM
Subject: No response to call for photos about copyright
I do not do instruments but I have friends that do. My question is do you
pay copyright for the use of the photos?
Terrance
Greetings Clayarters!
You came through for me with your contributions to my first book, The
Extruder Book. Now, I'm hoping you'll do it again as my co-author, Barry
Hall, and I begin researching and assembling material for "From Mud To
Music," a book all about musical instruments made from clay.
Terrance Lazaroff on sun 11 mar 01
Cyndy;
Thank you.
I am asking if the editor is paying for the right to use the image of the
object in the photo. What this means is that the editor or publisher pays a
scaled amount depending on the number of copies of the book and the size of
the photo to the artist or his copyright agent.
The scale changes when the book is printed by an non profit organisation by
about 50%. It the book is to sell as a profit then the scale is higher.
For example if an author, editor or publisher wished to use a photo of one
of my pieces then he must first determine the size of the image to be used.
This is broken down into 1/16, 1/8. 1/4, 1/2, full page, cover page or back
page. Then he must determine what the edition will be. For example 1000,
3000, 10,000, 20,000 and more.
There is other criteria to consider. The page size has nothing to do with
the costs. If the page is 8" by 12", or 10" by 16' the measure is by
portion of the page.
The reason I am asking is to save a lot of time. No sense for my friend to
send photos marked with the copyright agents address for payment if the
authors are not interested in paying copyright. You see once we sign on
with a copyright agent, he controls the reproduction of the image. The
artist can allow a photo to be reproduced but he has to know so that he can
inform the agent that consent to reproduce the image was given by the
artist.
As for the cost of using an image. I will use a 5,000 copy edition where
there is a photo taking 1/4 of the page. The amount to pay would be
approximately, $110.00 CDN. It is not much but it is something.
As for the publishers copyrighting the book, they do this to ensure that
photographs in the book are not reproduced by photocopy or other means. By
allowing them the right to copyright your image even after printing you are
giving them your entitled copyright monies collected through copyright
collection agencies then redistributed to the registered artists.
I know this sounds far fetched but I receive funds yearly from the
organisation in our country that collects the fees for photocopying art
images from books available in Libraries, Universities, and Colleges. This
money is funnelled through my copyright agent. It isn't much but is is
something.
Food for thought and why not.
Terrance
>Terrance,
>
>I'm not the one who called for photos, but maybe I can clarify the
copyright
>thing. I'm not sure what you're asking about when you say, "Will the author
>pay copyright for use of the photos?"
>
>The publisher will copyright the book, and this includes the photos. You
>should retain (in writing) your copyright of the photo (you have a
copyright
>by virtue of your act of creation--no requirement exists for you to
register
>that fact, though you may do so if you like). The instance of the photo in
>the actual book will be protected for you by the publisher's copyright. You
>should grant written permission to the publisher for one-time use only of
>the photo.
>
>If you're asking whether you will be paid for your submission, well, from
>the tone of the letter, I would guess the authors are requesting donations.
>Whether you wish to be paid or not is your call.
>
>Cindy Strnad
>Earthen Vessels Pottery
>RR 1, Box 51
>Custer, SD 57730
>USA
>earthenv@gwtc.net
>http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
>
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Ron Roy on wed 14 mar 01
My policy now is - if you want pictures of my work you are going to have to
pay me for my slides. I have spent thousands over the years paying for
photography and feel the need to draw the line. If you don't think my work
is worth including the choice is simple.
Having my work in a book helps to sell it - I deserve a small part of the
profit. It seems to me there is some respect involved here.
They don't give you a copy of the book anymore - you get a chance to buy it
at a discount price - not even tearsheets from the last 5.
If you are counting on big sales from having your work in a book or
magazine you are in for a big surprise. I think it has more to do with your
confidence and feeling of self worth. If that is the case getting paid for
your slides enhances the effect.
RR
>In a word, no.
>The publishers of these types of books do not pay for pictures of
>artwork used in the books. They consider it 'publicity' for the artist.
>They will sometimes offer a gratis copy of the finished book, but
>sometimes not even that, only 'tearsheets' of your page.
>--
>David Hendley
>Maydelle, Texas
>hendley@tyler.net
>http://www.farmpots.com/
Ron Roy
RR# 4
15084 Little Lake Rd..
Brighton,
Ontario, Canada
KOK 1H0
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