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taxile doat -- copyright and fair use and all that

updated sun 5 feb 06

 

Steve Slatin on fri 3 feb 06


Xeroxing is rarely an issue with older books in circulation as they generally
have already been opened sufficiently so that they lay flat on each page,
at least in my experience. For those who have the good fortune to get
their hands on a pristine condition copy, I would agree with Lee -- but there
are plenty of other technological ways of getting the info in copiable format
(finally a use for those high pixel-count cameras!).

I've gotten several out-of-print books and copied the odd chapter with no
damage to the book simple so I wouldn't have to re-borrow the book if
I needed to refer to the information. (Reference librarians often encourage
you to do this to avoid the risk of damage inherent in moving an old book
with a weak binding.)

Which, as it turns out, is in this case unnecessary. Google books has already picked it up and it is available, in its entirety, at

http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&vid=OCLC01939167&id=OEU7m5UjgLQC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=taxile+doat&prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3Dtaxile%2Bdoat%26lr%3D&sig=EYKen4n7M14IM60mFLNb3nfVqAM

And now, because I just can't restrain myself any longer --

Mairzy doats and dozy doats
And liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
Taxile Doats and gorging stoats
A ferret and a weasel
A kiddle bring you croup -- or a measle.

-- Steve Slatin



Lee Love wrote:
This is a really bad idea and I would not recommend non-professionals
Xeroxing a historical artifact, especially one that does not belong to
them while having no idea of the condition original artifact. Don't
break the back of a rare book we are fortunate to have in public
circulation. :-(

If you plop down $600 or $700.00 to buy your own copy, you have to use
your own judgment. ;-)

--
李 Lee Love 大

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Steve Slatin on fri 3 feb 06


When people address the problem of unavailability of old texts, the copyright law does sometimes work in their favor.

In the US (remember copyright law is not identical in different countries) there's a key date of 1978. Copyright protection differs depending on when a work was created and published or registered for copyright.

Works created and registered (or published) before 1978 had protection in the US for an initial term of 28 years, and, if renewed during the last year, could be extended up to a total term of protection of 95 years.

Works created after 1977 are generally protected for 70 years after the author's death. Special rules apply for works created for hire, those created by multiple authors, etc.

Since 1992, some special rules have applied to renewal registrations -- they are automatic, but must be paid for to be registered, so there are renewals for which
there is no record. (Don't ask.)

(Disclaimer -- these are summaries only, and relate only to texts. There are significant differences for other copywritten items.)

A renewal does require a claimant. In the Doat example, if he had no heirs, there
was no one to renew the copyright at some point in the past and it may have expired
at some quite long ago. In any event, since the Doat text was pubished in 1905, its copyright has expired.

If you're uncomfortable with it, check with a copyright lawyer, but I'd personally feel free to photocopy and distribute the work freely* (if I could find an initial copy to work from). Maybe one can be found on interlibrary loan?

-- Steve Slatin

*Or even to sell it.


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Lee Love on sat 4 feb 06


On 2006/02/04 4:22:37, claystevslat@yahoo.com wrote:

> If you're uncomfortable with it, check with a copyright lawyer, but
> I'd personally feel free to photocopy and distribute the work freely*
> (if I could find an initial copy to work from). Maybe one can be found
> on interlibrary loan?
>
> *Or even to sell it.

This is a really bad idea and I would not recommend non-professionals
Xeroxing a historical artifact, especially one that does not belong to
them while having no idea of the condition original artifact. Don't
break the back of a rare book we are fortunate to have in public
circulation. :-(

If you plop down $600 or $700.00 to buy your own copy, you have to use
your own judgment. ;-)

--
李 Lee Love 大
愛       鱗
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do more of what works.
If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The
trick is the doing something else."
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