Earl Brunner on thu 18 may 06
The problem with that, is that there are a lot of
nasties in that mess and someone or several someone's
on the list would pick up some viruses and then they
(the viruses) will be flying back and forth and all
around the list as the viruses harvest addresses from
the computers. Enough people complain when a moderator
accidentally lets one or two of them through.........
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On
Behalf Of Fredrick Paget
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:16 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Looking forward to changes
We don't realize how much work it is to moderate this
list.
It might be a good idea to take a day off from the job
and just let
everything go through to the list. That would show us!
--
From Fred Paget,
Marin County, CA, USA
fredrick@well.com
JOYCE LEE on thu 18 may 06
in the List eventually. Today there were probably 70, plus or minus
a dozen, legitimate Clayart posts. The other 250 or so were from
Nigeria, of course, or the good news that we had won a lottery,
usually in the UK. Many were thinly and poorly disguised carriers
of a virus just hoping to get some idiota (not I; not today) to click
in and infect her computer. In some cases we were given the
helpful and well-meaning (sure!) notice that our E-Bay, Bank of
America, and/or PayPal accounts were receiving suspicious hits
which the poster would attend to for us if we'd just send asap
our name, address, etc and, just thrown in as an aside, our
drivers license numbers and, oh yes, our Social Security numbers
and credit card information. =20
These were all sent to the List, Clayart, as a whole .... not to me
nor to Mel nor to Ceramics Monthly nor to any other individual
..... incredible!
Joyce
In the Mojave desert of California U.S.A. traveling via the internet to
the Kentucky mountains and delighted to find so many new art
and craft shops/galleries/studios/co-ops since the last time I
visited ..... not talking about Berea; they've always had a big craft
component to offer tourists and other interested folk..... but =
Middlesboro,
Hyden, Harlan, Pineville, Cumberland Gap. I'm inspired to extend
the Louisville NCECA visit in March to include a long, B&B trip into
the mountains which nourished my childhood. I marvel at the
freedom we children had .... roamed the area, played in canals/
ditches/dumps .... even though we were instructed every morning to
STAY AWAY from those areas and told horror stories (true ones!)
about little golden locked girls found DEAD in those very spots........
floating in the water....... little girls just like YOU! Brrr.... =
played
there anyway.....
Fredrick Paget on thu 18 may 06
>in the List eventually. Today there were probably 70, plus or minus
>a dozen, legitimate Clayart posts. The other 250 or so were from
>Nigeria, of course, or the good news that we had won a lottery,
>usually in the UK. ....snip.
We don't realize how much work it is to moderate this list.
It might be a good idea to take a day off from the job and just let
everything go through to the list. That would show us!
--
From Fred Paget,
Marin County, CA, USA
fredrick@well.com
Charter Member Potters Council
Brian Fistler on fri 19 may 06
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 21:44 -0700, Earl Brunner wrote:
> The problem with that, is that there are a lot of
> nasties in that mess and someone or several someone's
> on the list would pick up some viruses and then they
> (the viruses) will be flying back and forth and all
> around the list as the viruses harvest addresses from
> the computers. Enough people complain when a moderator
> accidentally lets one or two of them through.........
Most of the listserves available also have the option to integrate
antivirus and many can also block certain attachments (or it can be done
at the mail-server level)
Now, I don't put all my faith in antivirus products, since new viruses
come out all the time, but if all exe, bin, bat, scr etc. (executable
formats) are blocked along with virus scanning I wouldn't be too
concerned about the virus aspect.
Of course it is a lot easier to keep those executables from running amok
if you also keep the list text-only like this one, and strip off all
html crud.
Brian
lee love on fri 19 may 06
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Earl Brunner wrote:
>
> The problem with that, is that there are a lot of
> nasties
Like I have said, I have run photo weblists for over 6 years (I think
my dog list is about 8 years old), without a single virus occuring on
the lists.
What the moderators here experience is from the email addresses
of members being visible on some archives that ClayArt uses. Bots
collect these addresses and use them to send out trojans that hijack
infected computers that spammers use to send out their spam.
Even Yahoo Groups filters out viruses. Both Yahoo and Google
Groups mundge address, so they can't be harvested. I keep archives
private specifically to protect my lists from spammers and viruses.
Was it Mel that called the spammers "Dorks"? Actually, if you
have been following the news lately, the big ones are linked to
organized crime. It ain't just pimpley teenagers in their bedrooms.
This come to light when a new company anti-spam company, Blue
Security/Blue Frog, was put out of business by a big spammer out of
Russia, Pharma Master (he does the Viagra and also Nigierian spam.)
I would recommend listserve software that includes virus scanning.
--
Lee In Mashiko, Japan
My google Notebooks: http://tinyurl.com/e5p3n
"Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire;
Bring me my Spear; O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire! "
--William Blake
Earl Brunner on fri 19 may 06
Right, maybe we SHOULD let all the stuff through for
you guys for awhile. Even with all the stuff blocked
as you say, not everyone on this list is computer smart
enough NOT go to links imbedded in a message,
especially if it is targeting clay related stuff
specifically. Come of the more sophisticated viruses
will use info off of infected computers to attempt to
make the incoming virus message look legitimate to the
receiver.
A couple of years ago I got a forwarded virus (not
activated, but forwarded to me) from a very respected
member of this community. Had an attachment or link,
the subject was just off enough, I emailed them and
asked about the message prior to opening it.
It was a virus one of their kids had activated on their
computer and it had harvested clayart addresses (and
every other address on their computer) and forwarded
itself out. With 2,000 plus of us on this list,
computers get viruses fairly regularly. Not ALL the
problems will come directly from the list but
peripherally so to speak. Viruses will spoof the sender
address so you don't even really know where it's coming
from.
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On
Behalf Of Brian Fistler
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:19 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Looking forward to changes
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 21:44 -0700, Earl Brunner wrote:
> The problem with that, is that there are a lot of
> nasties in that mess and someone or several someone's
> on the list would pick up some viruses and then they
> (the viruses) will be flying back and forth and all
> around the list as the viruses harvest addresses from
> the computers. Enough people complain when a
moderator
> accidentally lets one or two of them through.........
Most of the listserves available also have the option
to integrate
antivirus and many can also block certain attachments
(or it can be done
at the mail-server level)
Now, I don't put all my faith in antivirus products,
since new viruses
come out all the time, but if all exe, bin, bat, scr
etc. (executable
formats) are blocked along with virus scanning I
wouldn't be too
concerned about the virus aspect.
Of course it is a lot easier to keep those executables
from running amok
if you also keep the list text-only like this one, and
strip off all
html crud.
Brian
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